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* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1474598565901686/ MLF with LAB thread on MTF, and acetic acid.]
* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1473295749365301/ Blue Owl describes a rise in pH from MLF fermentation using a culture isolated from malted barley.]
* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1482418815119661/ MTF discussion.]
==Introduction to Funky/Sour/Spontaneous Cider==