Mixed Fermentation

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This article is about sour brewing methods using commercial cultures. For other sour brewing methods, see Brewing Methods.

For the purposes of this article, we are defining a mixed fermentation (also referred to as "mixed culture fermentation") as any fermentation that consists of a combination of Saccharomyces, Brettanomyces, Lactobacillus, and Pediococcus cultures. Broadly speaking, there are two styles of mixed fermentations: "sour" fermentations and "funky" fermentations. "Sour" fermentations are characterized by their higher acidity and tart flavor, and require the use of a Lactic Acid Bacteria (LAB; generally Lactobacillus and/or Pediococcus). "Funky" fermentations generally do not contain LAB, but instead use a combination of Saccharomyces and Brettanomyces. Funky beers may be slightly tart, but are generally not considered sour. For both categories, the primary fermentation will be completed by yeasts such as Saccharomyces and/or Brettanomyces. For "Funky Mixed Fermentations", see the Funky Mixed Fermentations page. For 100% Brettanomyces fermentations, see the 100% Brettanomyces Fermentation page.

It is important to mention that sour brewing in general has very few well-established "rules". Many methods can be used in conjunction with other Brewing Methods, and new methodologies are constantly being developed. Many of the methods used are determined by the types of microbes the brewer is working with. An article of this length cannot encompass all mixed fermentation methods. Instead it will provide a "big picture" view of the general methodologies. Towards this end, we divide mixed fermentation methods into two approaches: the traditional long fermentation method and an increasingly popular, short fermentation method. They are divided here as a device to illustrate the philosophy of each and facilitate the discussion of the techniques used for each methodology. The distinction of these two methods is however somewhat artificial, indeed many brewers use elements of both approaches to achieve their desired results. More detailed information can be found in Michael Tonsmeire's pivotal book on sour brewing, "American Sour Beers".

"Sour" Mixed Fermentation - The Basics

Sour fermentations require at least one Lactic Acid Bacteria (LAB), such as Lactobacillus or Pediococcus, and at least one yeast such as Saccharomyces or Brettanomyces. Many yeast companies offer Mixed Cultures that provide all of the microorganisms necessary to make a sour beer. The results of these commercial mixed cultures can be as varied as the cultures themselves. For example, some of these commercial mixed cultures produce lightly tart beer that may exhibit minimal funky flavors; others may produce intense sourness and assertive funk. This is dependent on the types of microbes in the mixed culture, their ratios, how old the cultures are, and what methods the brewer uses to encourage or discourage certain flavors. The brewer must understand that all of these microbes are complex organisms (some more complex than others). Not only do different species behave differently and produce different results under different conditions, but different strains of the same species also can also behave differently and produce different results under different conditions. Just as strains of Saccharomyces cerevisiae produce different results in clean beers (e.g., California Ale yeast versus Belgian Ale yeast), strains of Lactobacillus spp. and especially Brettanomyces spp. can also vary widely.

BJCP styles that can be brewed using this method include Berliner Weissbier and the subcategories of American Wild Ale, which include Mixed-Fermentation Sour Beer and Soured Fruit Beer [1]. Belgian sour styles such as Lambic, Gueuze, and Fruit Lambic, technically can only be produced by Spontaneous Fermentation. Flanders Red Ale and Oud Bruin styles can be brewed using pure cultures, but can also be brewed using spontaneous fermentation or a mix of using pure cultures and spontaneous fermentation.

Traditional Method - Long Fermentation


The most basic method for making a mixed fermentation sour beer is to brew some simple wort (fresh extract or all grain) that is low in IBU's. Iso-alpha acids can inhibit many species and strains of LAB. Keeping the wort less than 6 IBU's is recommended in general, unless the brewer has information about their LAB culture that indicates that they can tolerate more. Mash hopping is one technique that can be used to limit the IBU's by about 70% [2]. If hops are not required (commercial brewers may be required to use hops, while homebrewers aren't), they can be completely excluded from the recipe. The wort is often mashed at a high temperature to encourage the inclusion of complex carbohydrates in the final wort. The wort is then primary fermented with a Saccharomyces strain to achieve the majority of attenuation, leaving behind the complex carbohydrates. The primary fermentation is then inoculated with a mixed culture of Brettanomyces, Lactobacillus and Pediococcus, either by moving the wort into barrels with active cultures or by inoculating the primary fermentation vessel (i.e. glass carboy when the method is used by home brewers). This inoculation then starts a secondary fermentation of the remaining complex carbohydrates which follows a slow progression between the microbes that are primarily active. This secondary fermentation may not readily show apparent signs of active fermentation as in the primary fermentation but is often accompanied by the slow evolution of CO2 in the first 8 weeks and the eventual formation of a pellicle which may form quickly or very slowly depending on the presence of oxygen. This method is still the most commonly used by commercial producers of modern and traditional Belgian sour beer, with variations on the process occurring widely. While still widely used by homes brewers, fast fermentation methods such as Sour Worting and other methods mentioned in this article are ever increasing in their use.

Wort Production

The grain bill and production for the wort doesn't have to be complex. In fact many sour breweries produce their full line of sours from 2-3 base sour recipes which are then modified after aging by blending, the addition of fruit, dry hops or simply packaging them without alteration. For sour blonde ales, a simple grain bill of about 70% Pilsner malt and 30% malted wheat can be used (these can be replaced by Pilsner and wheat unhopped extracts for the extract brewer. See Lambic Brewing by Steve Piatz or AmandaK's lambic-style extract recipe for a good extract recipe). Some crystal and a small amount of roasted malts an be used for sour brown ales. Some higher chain sugars or even starches can be included for beers that will be aged for a long time and include Brettanomyces, or Brettanomyces and Pediococcus (Pediococcus generally should not be used without Brettanomyces. See the Pediococcus page for more details). Performing a Turbid Mash is the traditional way to include starches in the wort. However other methods such as steeping some oats or flaked wheat during the boil [3], or running off over a bag of flaked oats or wheat on the way to the kettle can also impart starches that won't be converted to sugars by the mash (see alternatives to turbid mashing). This step is completely optional, however it may be very beneficial to make sure some higher chain sugars or starches are available in the wort if the brewer wants to rely on Pediococcus for producing most of the acidity. Extract brewers can use 0.25 lbs. (0.11 kg) of Maltodextrin [4], or hot steep a pound of flaked wheat, flaked oats, or carapils malt. See MTF Member Recipes for ideas on recipes, or the recipe sections of the books "American Sour Beers" by Michael Tonsmeire and "Wild Brews" by Jeff Sparrows.


Questions often arise regarding if and when wort aeration should be done. It is well documented that Saccharomyces uses oxygen to biosynthesize lipids, which include fatty acids and sterols, for their cell membranes. The cell membrane regulates the flow of nutrients into the cell and waste outside of the cell, and allows the yeast to reproduce. Each time a yeast cell doubles during growth, the parent cell gives approximately half of its lipids to the daughter cell. The more sugar available to the yeast, the more they will reproduce, and thus the more lipids they require. Thus, without a healthy cell membrane and a build up of lipids, the cell can die or produce weak daughter cells, potentially resulting in a range of off-flavors, especially in higher gravity beers [5][6]. Therefore in the brewing of non-mixed fermentation beers, aerating both the yeast starter and the wort before pitching the yeast is generally considered mandatory to the brewing process.

Brewers have historically had concerns about aerating wort that has either been pre-soured with lactic acid bacteria (if the lactic acid bacteria is still alive) or if it will receive a co-pitch of lactic acid bacteria, Brettanomyces, and Saccharomyces (see Reusing a Sour Yeast Cake, Multi-Stage Fermentation and Sour Worting). These concerns, however, are largely unfounded. Most species of Lactobacillus are either not effected by oxygen, or benefit slightly. Butyric Acid production by Lactobacillus is not a concern (see Lactobacillus, effects of oxygen for details). Some species/strains of Pediococcus might be inhibited by oxygen, but not all (see Pediococcus for details). Brettanomyces creates acetic acid in the presence of oxygen, however in the presence of a healthy pitch of Saccharomyces, which rapidly consumes the oxygen, this is probably also not a concern. Additionally, oxygen greatly improves the vitality and cell count of Brettanomyces (see Brettanomyces Propagation Experiment). Thus, as long as a healthy pitch of Saccharomyces is present, aerating wort for mixed fermentation should lead to a healthy fermentation and good results.

Many brewers, however, do not aerate their wort when either pre-souring the wort with a pure culture of lactic acid bacteria, pitching fresh wort on top of a mixed culture yeast cake, co-pitching a mixed culture such as Wyeast Roeselare, or pitching a custom mix of microbes from multiple sources [7]. Many such brewers have reported success without aerating. We therefore recommend that the brewer investigate and experiment with their process in order to decide whether or not aeration is desired.

If the brewer is pitching a separate liquid culture of Saccharomyces, it is recommended to create a starter on a stir plate and alternatively dose it with oxygen. This will allow the cell membranes to build enough lipids for their cells walls and give them the greatest chance of fermenting the wort without off-flavors [8]. If the wort has been pre-soured, it might be beneficial to propogate the yeast starter with a portion of the soured wort equal to the portion of starter wort in order to acclimate the yeast to the has conditions (see Saccharomyces fermentation under low pH conditions). Dried yeast is grown and processed in such a way that they contain enough lipids to support a healthy fermentation of 5% ABV or less without the need for aeration (this may be dependent on manufacturer; see the yeast manufacturer's website for their individual recommendations). Aeration should be considered for beers above 5% [6].

Bug Inoculation

Once the wort is produced and chilled, the mixed culture can be pitched as normal. If using a mixed culture from a commercial yeast lab, a starter is generally not needed. If the culture is old or a larger volume is needed, generally a normal starter can be made for mixed cultures without fear of "throwing off the balance of microbes" (see The Yeast Bay starter tips as an example; Bootleg Biology and Omega Yeast Labs also recommend starters for mixed cultures for larger batches [9]). Instead of buying a single mixed culture, a brewer can create their own mixed culture by combining their own ratios from single cultures of yeast and bacteria. A single mixed culture can be supplemented by adding pure cultures from different yeast labs as well. Another suggestion that often helps produce a higher quality sour beer is to supplement the mixed culture with a Commercial Sour Beer Inoculation. In general, the more diversity of microbes, the more complex a sour beer can potentially be. Using a Sour Worting method in conjunction with this method can help increase acidity that may not otherwise be produced by some commercial blends (Wyeast Roeselare is known for this characteristic, for example).

Stages of Fermentation

Conceptual graph of traditional souring microbe and wort dynamics. Y-axis for each microbe group depicts relative activity which combines in a conceptual sense: growth, acidification of wort, attenuation and production of flavor compounds. Plot drawn by Drew Wham based on concepts discussed in American Sour Beer [10] and Wild Brews [11] .

Primary Fermentation

Primary fermentation by Saccharomyces is generally conducted in the same way for a sour beer as for a non-sour beer. Depending on the intended final result the brewer might select a neutral ale strain (WLP 001/Wyeast 1056, WLP036/Wyeast 1007) to provide a neutral background for the souring microbes to act on. Alternatively, the brewer may use a Belgian strain or a saison/farmhouse strain (see Saccharomyces page for a comprehensive list) to increase the ester and/or phenol characters of the beer which can then be acted on by Brettanomyces. Primary fermentation with Saccharomyces also tends to lend to more glycerol production which increases the beer's mouthfeel (Brettanomyces generally does not produce much glycerol [12]). This primary fermentation can take place in any vessel suitable for a normal Saccharomyces fermentation. As always fermentation temperature control is of critical importance and temperature profiles for this fermentation step should match those suggested for the strain of Saccharomyces selected for this step. Once active fermentation has subsided the mostly attenuated wort can then be moved on to the secondary fermenting vessel. There is some variation in common practice as to whether or not the primary fermentation yeast should be carefully settled out, moving over bright clear beer only, or if un-settled cloudy high yeast population wort is moved to the secondary vessel. New Belgium moves their lager primary fermented beer after centrifuging, indicating that this centrifuged beer exhibits cleaner characters from secondary fermentation faster than un-centrifuged beer, allowing the resulting sour beer to be ready for packaging more quickly [13]. Concerns of yeast autolysis, however, have generally been minimized by most brewers (see Secondary Fermetnation).

Secondary Fermentation

After primary fermentation the mostly attenuated beer is moved to a secondary fermentation vessel. Often in traditional commercial production secondary fermentation is conducted in wine barrels, however home brewers can accomplish this phase in glass or plastic carboys with low oxygen permeability. A mixed culture of Brettanomyces, Lactobacillus and Pediococcus is then introduced to the beer. If barrels are being used then these "bugs" may simply come from the walls of the barrel, originating from a previous batch. Alternatively, the brewer might inoculate the wort with a mixed culture directly, either with a house culture or by introducing the dregs of bottled sour beer. Upon their introduction these new microorganisms begin converting the longer chain sugars left over from the primary fermentation. These sugars are primarily converted into alcohol and lactic acid, increasing the degree of attenuation and lowering the pH of the beer. This also corresponds with a decrease in S. cerevisiae cell counts, and the release of amino acids and vitamins from yeast autolysis might help fuel lactic acid bacteria and Brettanomyces [14]. Other flavor impacting secondary metabolites are also produced, depending on the strains used. In the presence of oxygen, acetic acid is also produced which in low amounts can be complementary, adding to the complexity of the beer.

Some brewers (mostly homebrewers) do not find it necessary to move the mostly attenuated beer into a secondary vessel. Instead, the mixed culture is pitched directly into the primary fermenter. While yeast autolysis is a concern in regular brewing, it is not a cause for concern in mixed fermentations that contain Brettanomyces. Lambic brewers, for example, perform a primary fermentation in barrels, and leave the beer in the barrels during the beer's entire aging process, which is usually 1-3 years [15]. Yeast autolysis releases trehelose, acids, and other compounds, which are metabolized by Brettanomyces [16]. Maintaining a Solera may be an exception to this (see the Solera page for details). The advantage of not moving the beer into a secondary vessel is that less overall oxygen is introduced into the beer (oxygen exposure will contribute to more acetic acid and then ethyl acetate production), and may be the best option if the brewer does not have a closed/CO2 system to prevent exposure to oxygen during transferring.


Aging is generally required for mixed fermentations that include Brettanomyces. The necessary/ideal amount of aging time will depend on many factors including the microbes pitched, the pitching rate, wort composition, storage temperature, and the desired final beer. Keep in mind that the beer will also continue to develop once packaged. For more straight forward beers with highly attenuative primary strains (like tart saisons), a reasonable final product with tartness and Brettanomyces character can be reached in a few months. For more complex and/or acidic beers (such as Flemish reds or beers inspired by lambics) you may expect an aging time of at least 9 months, but quite possibly as long as 12-18 months or longer. In general longer aging will allow more complex expression of the spectrum microbes present. Some brewers will package a beer after the finishing gravity has stabilized (see Packaging, and allow the beer to fully develop in the bottle. Keep in mind that some volatile flavor compounds, such as sulfur based compounds, may volatilize off at a faster rate in a fermenter (especially a shallow fermenter such as a barrel) than they would in a sealed bottle.

Sour beer should be aged in an environment that minimizes high temperatures and exposure to oxygen. Drastic temperature fluctuations and changes in atmospheric pressure will cause a vacuum inside of the fermentation vessel causing water airlocks to "suck back" air into the fermenter. This could potentially contribute to Acetic Acid and Ethyl acetate (nail polish aroma in high concentrations) production by Brettanomyces, however the development of a pellicle is believed by some brewers to help protect against this. Filling the carboy to the neck or topping up carboys or barrels will also help minimize the surface area of the beer that can be exposed to air. Avoid over sampling the beer (once every 3 months at the very most). One way ventilated silicone bungs can be used for barrels, or other waterless type airlocks that allow gases to escape the fermenter but not enter from the environment. It should also be noted that micro-oxygenation is helpful for creating certain flavors in sour beer, and many homebrewers have reported not having any issues with over exposure to oxygen using water-based airlocks.

Mark Trent's demonstration of how easy it is for temperature changes to cause a vacuum and suck-back air into a vessel:

Different airlocks and vessel materials diffuse oxygen at different rates. For example, a set of experiments published by Dr. Enrich L. Gibbs at BetterBottle™ showed that rubber stoppers prevented oxygen transfer more effectively than silicone stoppers, plastic stoppers, and both the "3 piece" airlock and "S" airlock. Solid bungs, however, can build up pressure inside the fermenter as the beer slowly ferments, and can pop off due to the pressure (and can cause messes if the vessel becomes pressurized too much). Weekly degassing for a few months while the beer ages is one option with solid bungs. See the BetterBottle™ paper for more information. Raj Apte found that HDPE buckets let in farm more oxygen than carboy setups, and taking into account the high surface area to volume ratio in homebrew setups versus full size barrels, oxygen exposure over time on the homebrew level can be a difficult issue to solve. For example, Apte attempted using wooden dowels as stoppers in carboys, and found that it let in about the same amount of oxygen as wooden tanks at Rodenbach. However, the swelling of the wooden dowels led some people to crack or destroy glass carboys (therefore this method is not recommended) [17].

Tank [17] Volume in Liters O2 cc/Liter per Year
Burgundy barrel 300 8.5
Rodenbach tank, wood, small 12,000 0.86
Rodenbach tank, wood, large 20,000 0.53
HDPE bucket 20 220
Homebrew barrel 40 23
Glass carboy, 30cm vinyl immersion tube 20 0.31
Glass carboy, silicone stopper 20 17
Glass carboy, wood stopper (not recommended) 20 0.10

One misconception about aging beers is the claim that CO2 is heavier than air and forms a blanket that protects the beer from oxygen. This is not true unless CO2 is constantly being produced from the beer. The Ideal Gas Law states that unlike solids or liquids of different densities, the gasses will eventually mix. See Dr. Chris Colby's explanation of this on Beer and Wine Journal., and this science documentary demonstration of how gasses eventually mix (note that the molecular weight of bromine used in the video is 160 g/mol and the weight of CO2 is 44.01 g/mol, so CO2 would diffuse into air faster than bromine [18][19]).

See also:

Modern Method - Fast Fermentation


The short fermentation method refers to an approach for making sour beers that involves successive inoculation of microbes by the brewer to a wort designed for faster attenuation. This approach accomplishes the souring and full attenuation of the wort in a shorter time frame than the traditional method.

In the traditional or long ferment method, the selective availability of carbohydrates to particular microbes allows the activity of those microbes to occur in a natural succession. As the microbes with better competitive ability run out of metabolic resources microbial groups with lower competitive advantage, but wider access to metabolic resources, begin their primary activity. In the short fermentation method, the brewer controls the phases of microbial activity. This allows the brewer to introduce the microbes with the lowest competitive ability to the wort first, allowing them to act on the simplest sugars and establishing their population in the absence of better competing microbes. The order of primary microbial activity in the short fermentation method is, therefore, often the opposite of the order typically observed in the long fermentation method. Further, this approach allows the brewer to maintain temperature profiles that are optimal for each microbial phase. Since the phases are controlled by the brewer, there isn't a need for the longer chain sugars that are generally included in the wort designed for long fermentation because the microbes with lower competitive ability have already been established in the beer by the time the better competing microbes are introduced. For this reason, the beer can fully attenuate within 3-4 weeks of it's final inoculation in many cases. It is important to note however that care should be taken in the decision to bottle these beers in such a short time frame (See bottling section below). Once the beer has reached full attenuation the beer can be packaged, in some cases this can be only 6-8 weeks from brew day (see Mixed Fermentation In Less than 3 Months). A number of biochemical reactions that effect flavor and aroma may still take place over a period of weeks, to months or even years, however, most of these reactions do not involve the production of carbon dioxide so these reactions may take place in the bottle.

Wort Production

The grain bill for a short fermentation sour can be based on nearly any style. In contrast to the low fermentability wort used in the long ferment method, the wort used in the short fermentation method is generally designed to be highly fermentable. This is because the order and timing of microbial inoculation, rather than natural succession of the microbial community, is used to control acidity and fermentation characters. A few modifications to grain bills can be made to increase the fermentability of the wort and accomplish the full attenuation of the wort in a relatively short period of time. These modifications include lowering or removing crystal malts from the recipe and mashing for 90-120 minutes at 149°F/65°C. Extract brewers can steep 2-3 lbs. of crushed, malted 6-row or 2-row base pale malt at 149F in their kettle with their extract in order to increase the fermentability of their wort.

Multi-Stage Fermentation

Conceptual graph of fast souring microbe and media dynamics. Y-axis for each microbe group depicts relative activity which combines in a conceptual sense: growth, acidification of wort, attenuation and production of flavor compounds. Plot drawn by Drew Wham based on concepts discussed in American Sour Beer [20] and Wild Brews [21] .

Matt Miller outlines a "three stage fermentation" process on his blog article Understanding, Brewing, and Blending a Lambic Style Kriek [22]. See the article for a much more detailed process. Matt was also interviewed about his process by James Spencer on the BasicBrewing Radio podcast. In summary, his process is as follows:

  1. Produce a low or no hopped wort (see the Standard Method above).
  2. After boiling the wort, cool it to 90-120°F (32.3-48.9°C), and run it into the fermenter. The exact temperature depends on the culture being used (see the [[Lactobacillus#Culture_Charts|Lactobacillus page for recommended temperatures).
  3. Pitch a pure culture of Lactobacillus, and if possible hold the temperature between 90-120°F (32.3-48.9°C) for 2-4 days (see the Souring in the Primary Fermenter page for more details).
  4. After 1-3 days, or after the desired pH is achieved (generally between a pH of 3.0-3.7), cool the wort to 65-70°F (18.3-21.1°C), oxygenate the wort, and pitch a starter of Saccharomyces.
  5. After primary fermentation has finished, transfer the beer to a secondary vessel for aging.
  6. Add one or more cultures of Brettanomyces. Optionally, also pitch a culture of Pediococcus and/or bottle dregs from commercial sours (see Commercial Sour Beer Inoculation for more details on using commercial bottle dregs). For more funky Brett flavors, do not make a starter for the Brett. (Editor's note: new information suggests that the pitching rate for Brettanomyces in a mixed fermentation probably does not impact flavor. See Brettanomyces secondary fermentation experiment for more details). Also optionally, these additional microbes can be co-pitched along with the Saccharomyces during step 5.
  7. Age for 6-18 months, or longer if desired.
  8. For the last two months of aging, fruit, spices, and/or oak can be added directly into the fermenter (see Soured Fruit Beer and Soured Herb, Spice, and Vegetable Beer). Also consider Blending with other sour beers.

Fermentation in Less Than 3 Months

Some brewers have been experimenting with mixed fermentations that can finish within 3 months. This approach to mixed fermentations takes some knowledge of the cultures being used and is considered to be an advanced topic. In general, use cultures that don't produce a lot of off-flavors early on in fermentation. For example, Omega Yeast Lab's Lactobacillus blend (OYL-605) and The Yeast Bay's Lorchristi Brettanomyces blends are good choices. Warning: if mixed fermentation beers are bottled too early, they can result in bottle bombs or gushing bottles. Gareth Young offers his advise to brewers wanting to try mixed fermentations that finish within 3 months [23]:

I typically turn around funky beers, especially roughly saison-ish things, pretty fast. One of the things I like about them is the way they change over time, so I like being able to drink them when they're very young, then drinking them sporadically over the next months as they develop.

Looking through stuff I've posted here, I've found one that I posted about 5 weeks from brew day, and it was good a while before that. It was also dry-hopped and had honey added, which meant it took longer. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/1108334109194802/

Here's some stuff about my process:

1) Lower ABV stuff will be quicker. It doesn't need to be super low, but below 6% is probably wise.

2) Make your wort very fermentable. The more fermentable, the quicker it will hit a stable gravity. I do this by mashing at 63 for two hours, then not sparging too hot, so it's becoming more fermentable all the way to the kettle. Also, don't use any grains with unfermentable (or slow-fermentable) sugars. Just base malt, and maybe some oats/wheat or something.

3) Pitch plenty of yeast. I'd use a culture with lots of healthy Saccharomyces and lots of Brettanomyces, and maybe bacteria, right at the start of primary. This lets Brettanomyces character develop more quickly and helps you hit a stable gravity quicker. I always do this, and there are Brettanomyces aromas coming out of the airlock almost immediately. If you reuse this culture, you'll start selecting for things that get the job done quickly.

4) Pitch your culture low, but then let it rip, and warm it up a bit towards the end of fermentation, if necessary. That should get most of the sugars fermented pretty fast but without the off flavours you can get from pitching hot. Brettanomyces can often clear those up, but it takes time. The less mistakes you leave for your bugs to clear up, the sooner it will be ready.

5) Bottle as soon as you hit a stable gravity. If you do it right, your final gravity should be 0.998-1.002 pretty quick. If you bottle soon, I find you don't get any THP (presumably because there's enough healthy Saccharomyces around to ferment the priming sugar without producing it). It was only when I decided I wanted my beer to be a bit clearer, and so started leaving it in primary until it cleared, that I started regularly seeing small amounts of THP developing early in bottle conditioning.

For 4-5%-ish beers, the soonest I've started drinking was 1.5 weeks, but I've started in 2 weeks quite a few times (edit: 4 weeks sometimes). Typically, they hit the final gravity I want within a week, then I bottle them and they're properly carbonated in another week (sometimes less). They obviously develop and get "brettier" and more refined over time, but they're still good, and still funky that quickly.

Finishing Mixed Fermentations

Reusing a Sour Yeast Cake

Reusing a sour yeast cake can often provide great results. Brewers have reported success re-pitching on very old yeast cakes (2+ years) without getting off flavors from yeast autolysis. After several months, Saccharomyces tends to die off due to the low pH in a sour beer. The bacteria and Brettanomyces tend to survive the lower pH, and their cell counts can be high in even an old yeast cake (interestingly, Brettanomyces remains more viable over time if it was co-fermented with S. cerevisiae than if it was fermented by itself; i.e. 100% Brettanomyces beers [14]). By pitching new wort on an old sour yeast cake, these microbes (particularly the Lactobacillus) have access to the simple sugars in the wort [24]. Using a young yeast cake is also a viable option, and may carry over more surviving Saccharomyces cells as well as more viable cells of the other various microbes. In general, washing the yeast cake is not necessary. The beer itself can also be used as an inoculate and might be more desirable so as to avoid trub. If the beer has sat in a barrel Acetobacter and other unwanted microbes might be more present on the surface of the pellicle, and would remain after racking the beer out of the barrel, so some professional brewers advise using beer as an inoculate for this reason [25].

Some brewers will harvest a certain amount of trub from their fermenters (500mL for example) and use only this amount to inoculate a new batch of beer. This will allow the brewer to control the amount of dead trub material that goes into the new beer. Michael Tonsmeire often advises that the brewer also pitches a fresh culture of Saccharomyces [26].

Some brewers have good success reusing a yeast cake or a portion of a yeast cake by leaving the wort in contact with the old yeast cake for 1-4 days. After 1-4 days, a fresh culture of Saccharomyces is pitched to finish the fermentation. The 1-4 day head start gives the souring bacteria a head start and results in a low pH beer. The harvested yeast cake can also be pitched at the same time as a fresh culture of Saccharomyces, or afterward. The decided timing on when to pitch the harvest sour yeast cake will effect the acidity of the sour beer: early pitching of the sour yeast cake generally produces a more acidic beer, and later pitching generally produces a less acidic beer.

As with all methods, the species and strains of the microbes being used should always be taken into consideration. Experimentation and repeated processes should be carefully employed by the brewer in order to find the best results for their cultures. For example, using different strains of Saccharomyces cerevisiae as the primary fermenter could produce widely different results, and the use of 10-30 IBU's in the wort can be used to inhibit the lactic acid bacteria if they become too strong and produce too much acidity.

Bottling and Kegging

See the Packaging page.

See Also

Additional Articles on MTF Wiki

External Resources


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