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* [https://www.facebook.com/groups/MilkTheFunk/permalink/3643720645656123/ MTF thread with thoughts from Roel Mulder, Lars Garshol, and others on the history of Flanders brown beer.]
* [https://lostbeers.com/flemish-brown-red-or-red-brown/ "Flemish brown, red or red brown? How Michael Jackson invented a beer style out of thin air," by Roel Mulder.]
* [https://www.belgiansmaak.com/ep043-oud-bruin-flanders-red-brown-flemish-sours/ Belgian Smaak podcast - EP043. Roundtable Discussion — Everything Oud Bruin, Flanders Red, and Flemish Sours."]
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